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Cartographers Redux Tips

Just finished this expedition. This one can be a real pain to get through. Here’s some tips to hopefully help.

  1. This Expedition, more than the first 2 reduxs, is the definition of Do Milestones Out of Order. Seriously, you can do the later milestones early and it will definitely help with the first ones.

  2. You’re on a hot planet, but you start with a heat shield. Aside from the normal basic stuff you always need for these, mine some Phosphorus when you get the opportunity; it’s probably the best option for recharging the heat shield. One patch/vein should be enough to get through the whole expedition.

  3. You will get the Minotaur exocraft in this one. It has a few perks here. A) It protects you from the heat without the need for upgrades or charging. B) It can operate 100% underwater without the need for Oxygen. C) The jump pack gets you around MUCH faster than just you on foot.

  4. You have one milestone that wants you to Chart Waypoints, or something close to that wording. You will get Plotting Charts (the items that tell you where certain buildings are). This milestone is NOT talking about these items. What it wants you to do is hit 4 different “Chart & Save” points that you find by buildings. IMO, it was not very clear this is what it was asking for.

  5. The Climb a Mountain Milestone. Without cheesing it; the best way to get this one is to Track it in the Log (Objective) tab, then climb a “hill”. The tracker will tell you how high up you are & the target hight. If you’re not high enough, look across the horizon and find a spot higher than you and head for that location. Repeat until you get high enough. You can do this in the Minotaur, it will actually give you a little hight boost.

  6. The Low Altitude Maneuvers: once you FINALLY get the ship airborne, what they want you to do is continually Boost in the lower atmosphere for 15 seconds. I found a decent sized lake near my ship. I skimmed the water and had no issues.

I think that’s all of the sticking points. Comment any questions and I’ll do my best to help.

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It's just me who thinks travel between Galaxies is overly punitive and tiresome

It's just me who thinks travel between Galaxies is overly punitive and tiresome

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Just clarifying, I know the drill. Go to a Portal, and travel to the closest planet to the core. Swap to a ship and multi-tool used only “to break” by the jumping. Remove all the exosuit upgrades then head to the core and jump. Wait for all the jump animation to finish. When you arrive, build a base in the new galaxy, fix the ship to allow it to fly, find another portal, activate the glyphs, and repeat the process.

If you want to have access to all galaxies without depending on anyone you will need to do it at least 255 times! And even though the steps above reduce the cost of the trip, you still need to spend fixing the ship, activating portals, warp cells and building a base. Also unless you do all 255 galaxies in one run, which can take hours, you will need to remove and return your upgrades every time you stop and restart this process. I have more than 40 upgrades in my exosuit tech storage. Because they are already optimised to use the supercharged slots, I need to move these upgrades in a way to keep them in the same slot when I return them, which is very time-consuming in not a good way.

Another issue is that in the end, you will have your base list so cluttered with bases to access galaxies in your terminal, that will make it a nightmare to find the base you need, given the teleporter has no sorting or search options.

It doesn’t make sense to me. I mean it is a game in which the main focus is “exploration“, what is the point of making it so hard and annoying to explore other galaxies?

What I am asking is simple, the possibility to travel to any galaxy without someone’s help or the need to catalogue all galaxies.

There are many ways that it could be done. Here is one example that could be made without changing the current mechanic too much:

In this idea Atlas Station is connected to one and only one of the 255 Galaxies. So we need at least 256 Atlas Stations in each Galaxy. The community will have the role of identifying which A.S. is linked to each galaxy. My point to suggest using the Atlas Stations is because they are a cool feature that, after the “Atlas Path” mission, become kind of useless, a glorified Iteration Helios, also I think it makes some sense in the game’s lore.

My suggestion:

  • The player travels to the Atlas Station linked to the galaxy he/she wants to go.
  • In exchange for something (maybe a Heart of the Sun, to give some use to these bunch of blueprints we get during Atlas Path), you get a token for the Galaxy you are going from the Atlas Station.
  • You keep that token in the exosuit or ship inventory.
  • Then the process is the same as the current mechanic. You head to the core and jump, things still break, but instead, it takes you to the next galaxy, it will take you to the token’s galaxy.
  • After the jump token is consumed and removed from your inventory.
  • If you are not carrying any token, it will take you to the next galaxy as it is currently.
  • If you are carrying more than one token, the priority will be the one in the top leftmost slot of the Exosuit.

Pros:

  • Give the player the freedom to fly to any galaxy, any time.
  • Don’t change the current mechanic, just add a new feature.
  • Avoid unnecessary bases cluttering in the teleporter.
  • It is way cheaper than the current mechanic, once you don’t have to jump to each galaxy to get the one you want.

Cons:

  • It is less but still annoying, moving upgrades, fixing things, etc.
  • If you want to visit all the galaxies, that solution doesn’t help.

There are other solutions that could make things even easier, like using the Atlas Stations as a portal in itself, nothing breaks, etc. But I think it’s good not to make things too easy either, just not as punishing as today.

I hope HG address that one day.

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