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Anyone else think about how we treat sentinel interceptors compared to how we treat bioships?

Seems to me there is a heck of a double standard involved. Both types of ship are sentient beings in the lore of No Man’s Sky.

Yet, to obtain a bioship one must feed and nurture its consciousness into being, meeting its developing needs communicated to you through psychic song, and ultimately forming a bond with it as a parent to a child.

To obtain a sentinel ship, you must accost a disabled one that is hostile to the idea of being controlled, install an interface to transmit your control inputs to it, and then rip out its sentient brain and take it to a monolith to be brainwashed into becoming docile and obeying your commands.

I’m not judging, it’s just a video game. I just found the juxtaposition kind of hilarious.

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Why is No Man's Sky Lore so goddamn depressing?

Alright for context: I’m now 20+ hours ingame. And so far i’ve gathered: The Korvax are not really individuals but also not really a hivemind. Then they got genocided by the Gek. The Gek are some greedy bastards and in turn got genocided by the Vy’keen. Who are fighting a perpetual war against war itself, which may be the worst, just leads to nothing except more war and suffering. Furthermore in the basic starting mission of building your base you meet: 1: an agrarian who is so disillusioned by the destruction of his species that the simplest of plants grant him satisfaction 2: an exo-craft technician who doomed his entire family to death 3: Your scientist who got disconnected from the convergence and has his memory reset multiple times

Why can’t I just meet a nice town or village of well-meaning Aliens or something like that? I love No Man’s Sky but it just feels so lonely 🙁

p.s. excuse my english it aint my first language, also I was drunk when I worte this

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Make expeditions permanent or Make them available as missions on all saves and game modes

I can see they have put a huge amount of effort into this expedition.

My favorite expedition so far was the titan worm expedition, it had really nice mechanics of killing giant worms and it was awesome, the storyline was also very cool.

Every expeditions so far has a storyline, some better then others but all of them have some lore like in-game story missions.

It doesn’t make sense to put so much effort into something that will never be available again, I understand doing things like that for MMOs, but NMS is a single-player game with multiplayer features, so it doesn’t make sense to have time limited events.

This causes FOMO and makes a lot of people not wanting to play the game because of how much cool things they have missed.

We don’t have much comestic items for no man’s sky, and now most of them are locked behind expedition’s that have already been finished.

For example, we have 4 jetpacks, but only 2 of them are unlockable through the game, the other 2 are gone forever and forgotten with the expeditions. Capes suffers the same problem, we have 3 right now but only 1 can be unlocked through the normal game.

I wouldn’t mind expedition’s being time gated if we could get the rewards in-game, but that’s not the case. We have few cosmetics and most of them are locked behind finished expeditions.

A possible new player may not want to buy the game because they will never have those cosmetics or items that they missed, and we have very few customization items in NMS so lock part of them is just not smart.

Also, we have some very nice features in expedition’s that we will never see on the game again, like those giant sand worms that we could kill on that old titan worm expedition, the time loop from now and other features that just exist in certain expeditions.

Also, not everyone likes to have to create a new save for them, they could be convert into missions inside the core game, with the option of creating a new save or using your existing save to play them.

“Oh but the idea is having limited-time items”

That’s just not a good idea, we don’t have much cosmetics items in first place, and putting the new ones into time limited missions is just bad game design.

We can see that the devs put a lot of effort into the expeditions, making new game mechanics and storylines, and they just disappear and are forgotten after the expedition ends.

If you guys don’t want to make the itens or expeditions available on the core game with normal game saves, at least don’t make the expeditions be time-limited.

Please take out this time gate for expeditions, let us play them whenever we want. You can just maintain the expedition game mode with the option to choose which expedition to play, without any time gates.

And it’s not like we can’t get the item, who uses PC or Xbox can just get it thought save editor, but it’s not nice to have to use this tool to get the items, just make them available on the core game, it will not hurt the game it will actually improve it.

I am day one player and have more than 1000 hours in NMS, I have the game on all platforms and it’s my favorite game of all time, but this time gated content it’s not nice for no man’s sky, actually it isn’t nice for any game, it works for MMOs but NMS isn’t a MMO…

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Some questions from a relatively new but also old player

I bought this game a very long time ago because I thought it would get a lot better, and I wasn’t wrong! I’ve mostly ignored it for years, but I decided to get back into it, and now I’m hooked on the few game mechanics I’ve found so far. I do have a bunch questions since I’ve seen the game evolve so much:

  • Can players truly come across each other outside of the Anomaly? On one hand, it’s probably pretty rare, but on the other hand, two players found out they were 4 star systems apart on Launch Day which is how the multiplayer claim was disproven, so maybe it isn’t all that rare.

  • What makes a ship able to be broken into parts? While Sentinel ships can’t be broken into parts, only half of the normal wrecked ships I’ve brought in had that option, it was grayed out for the other half. I don’t see a pattern.

  • Is there a way to give player Sentinel ships a purple Sentinel Cannon? I love that purple color and don’t like that it reverts to the blue color of the Photon Cannon.

  • Is it possible to come across an S-Class dreadnought? I captured an A-Class one, and I collect A-Class Sentinel ships but have heard S-Class ones exist, so do they?

  • If I accept a Sentinel interceptor salvage quest, abandon the quest, then destroy the ship, why do I get a standing decrease as if I destroyed a civilian craft? Is this a bug or a mechanic I don’t understand?

  • What are the odds we’ll ever get an update to Communication Stations? I too fell victim to curiousity, I thought that it was like player Gyroids in Animal Crossing where other people can interact with them to be told the message I enter, but I had to go far away from my base, dig to the lowest point, and place a new one there to “get rid of” the one in my base. Additionally, none of the save editors that exist at the moment let you edit placements in bases, and even more strangely, no mods exist to add a delete function to them, which you think there would’ve been by now.

  • If Euclid is the first galaxy, and by extension the most played, why have I entered dozens of systems but have only found one or two “Discovered by Playername” ones? Surely I can’t be the first to find these, and I see lots of posts here about finding user-created planet names.

  • In my base-building window, I have some un-viewed wood parts, but none of them have the indicator that they’re new. Is it stuck like that?

  • The Custom gamemode removed a lot of the reasons I stayed away from the game, however one gripe I have is that disabling component damage doesn’t do so when going to a new galaxy, but does when starting the first tutorial section, both of which damage all your ship components when component damage is turned on. I keep forgetting I fly Sentinel ships so I often have to walk for many IRL hours to reach somewhere I can buy a temporary ship off of a random NPC, but luckily I’m always stacked on credits because I don’t have much to spend it on. Is this the intended behavior?

  • Speaking of the previous point, I have hundreds of millions of credits, what do I spend it on that’s worth it? I recruit every pirate frigate I come across after battles but it’s still not enough.

  • This is more of a nitpick than a question, but whenever I fire the Photon Cannon or Sentinel Cannon, I can see a blue straight line appear that’s not a part of the actual projectile. I assume this is what’s actually registering the hits but it looks jank and I don’t remember it being there before.

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It's just me who thinks travel between Galaxies is overly punitive and tiresome

It's just me who thinks travel between Galaxies is overly punitive and tiresome

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Just clarifying, I know the drill. Go to a Portal, and travel to the closest planet to the core. Swap to a ship and multi-tool used only “to break” by the jumping. Remove all the exosuit upgrades then head to the core and jump. Wait for all the jump animation to finish. When you arrive, build a base in the new galaxy, fix the ship to allow it to fly, find another portal, activate the glyphs, and repeat the process.

If you want to have access to all galaxies without depending on anyone you will need to do it at least 255 times! And even though the steps above reduce the cost of the trip, you still need to spend fixing the ship, activating portals, warp cells and building a base. Also unless you do all 255 galaxies in one run, which can take hours, you will need to remove and return your upgrades every time you stop and restart this process. I have more than 40 upgrades in my exosuit tech storage. Because they are already optimised to use the supercharged slots, I need to move these upgrades in a way to keep them in the same slot when I return them, which is very time-consuming in not a good way.

Another issue is that in the end, you will have your base list so cluttered with bases to access galaxies in your terminal, that will make it a nightmare to find the base you need, given the teleporter has no sorting or search options.

It doesn’t make sense to me. I mean it is a game in which the main focus is “exploration“, what is the point of making it so hard and annoying to explore other galaxies?

What I am asking is simple, the possibility to travel to any galaxy without someone’s help or the need to catalogue all galaxies.

There are many ways that it could be done. Here is one example that could be made without changing the current mechanic too much:

In this idea Atlas Station is connected to one and only one of the 255 Galaxies. So we need at least 256 Atlas Stations in each Galaxy. The community will have the role of identifying which A.S. is linked to each galaxy. My point to suggest using the Atlas Stations is because they are a cool feature that, after the “Atlas Path” mission, become kind of useless, a glorified Iteration Helios, also I think it makes some sense in the game’s lore.

My suggestion:

  • The player travels to the Atlas Station linked to the galaxy he/she wants to go.
  • In exchange for something (maybe a Heart of the Sun, to give some use to these bunch of blueprints we get during Atlas Path), you get a token for the Galaxy you are going from the Atlas Station.
  • You keep that token in the exosuit or ship inventory.
  • Then the process is the same as the current mechanic. You head to the core and jump, things still break, but instead, it takes you to the next galaxy, it will take you to the token’s galaxy.
  • After the jump token is consumed and removed from your inventory.
  • If you are not carrying any token, it will take you to the next galaxy as it is currently.
  • If you are carrying more than one token, the priority will be the one in the top leftmost slot of the Exosuit.

Pros:

  • Give the player the freedom to fly to any galaxy, any time.
  • Don’t change the current mechanic, just add a new feature.
  • Avoid unnecessary bases cluttering in the teleporter.
  • It is way cheaper than the current mechanic, once you don’t have to jump to each galaxy to get the one you want.

Cons:

  • It is less but still annoying, moving upgrades, fixing things, etc.
  • If you want to visit all the galaxies, that solution doesn’t help.

There are other solutions that could make things even easier, like using the Atlas Stations as a portal in itself, nothing breaks, etc. But I think it’s good not to make things too easy either, just not as punishing as today.

I hope HG address that one day.

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